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Founded 2003

The History Of Red Shadows


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From small acorns born

And never a truer word has been written. To start RS consisted of some friends alt's Lenda, Kenwolf, Feniar, Rodelsb, and the future GM's of RS Albion, Kaspien and Sye and I even had to pay someone to join my group just to get enough people to start a guild. I was probably the only full time member of RS when the guild was created. Not the most promising of starts for a guild that was later to become the largest guild in Europe.


3 or 4 days after RS was created Aereth returned from his holiday. As soon as he flagged up on my friends monitor I pm'd him to give him the bad news. He was devastated, and even talked about packing the game in altogether. After we had talked a while he decided that was going to go away for a while, talk to the remaining members of FNM and then decide what to do. I told him that should he decide that he didn't want to try and rebuild FNM then he was more than welcome to join me in RS and if he decided to join me then the offer of course also extended to all the other remaining FNM members.


Less than a week later all the remaining FNM members had joined me in RS. I decided that I wouldn't be able to run everything on my own and so asked Aereth if he wouldn't mind helping out as a GM, I needed someone experienced to help look after guild matters whilst I pushed forward my plans for expansion. Aereth accepted and so RS had 2 GM's. Now I'm not a fan of equal number gm's. I like decisions to be made, even if they're wrong, and so I decided that we would need 1 more GM so that if it ever came to an argument over a decision the vote would always be a yes or no, no split decision and thus no action taken. I decided to ask lenda if he would join as a GM. He turned me down saying he had just joined White rose and was really enjoying being a part of a large guild, he did recommend Gudrodal to me though and so our 3rd GM was created.


As I was now back to spending 100% of my time on Excalibur I promoted Dav, Kaspien, Sye and Phil to joint gm's on Prywden and effectively became a silent partner. The story of RS alb from here on in will have to be told by one of them another day.


I decided at that point that I was going to create an 'Anti-Vintergatan' guild. Not specifically a guild to try and destroy all things Vintergatan but to show that you didn't have to be a bunch of self centered greedy c*nts to create a 'Super-Guild' as one of their members laughably referred to themselves as. I had a very hard decision to make. Basically I had 2 choices.


RS vs VG

When the FNM members joined RS Aereth posted on the FNM alliance forums....


Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 8:42 pm Post subject: Faith No More is No More!!! =(
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It is with great saddness that I have to inform that the Faith No More Guild is no more! As most of our highlvl chars got sucked into Vintergatan in the merge between Korpens Skugga and Svea Rike, Faith No More got literally gutted and was firmly put back to square one!
With noone to rebuild the guild it will end here....
I must also say that if what I've heard is right, about Vintergatan recruting amongst FNM, that I am very dissapointed... and in sum way angry!
Well.. I hope all goes well for Vintergatan, but I wont be joining, due to that I disagree with the main policy: Swede only.... I have already joined Red Shadows as many of our other members have who were left behind! (due to the policy)
Please note that I don't hold any grudges against any persons! I hope that I still can maintain the freindship of those I met in KS before the merge!
So say good bye to Faith No More, My child, my love, my achivement!
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Former GM of FNM


Looking back on it VG's reply on the forums was, whilst very hurtful at the time, probably the best reply anyone could of ever said for an emerging RS guild................


Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 4:20 pm Post subject:
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Well.. dont really know what to say..
Was beginning to wonder what happend with FNM after the vintergatan merge, cause I saw a lot less of you guys.
Thought some of you were playing on prydwen ...
and wasnt around as much at first.
But I guess something like this is more or less expected when people see a chance to be able to grow fast and achieve larger goals faster.
After all, we are paying money for this game every month and after awhile I guess the mutual feeling amongst a lot of us is that we want to get a bigger payback overall.
Just sad that one guild goes down when another goes up..
And I wish you GL too =)
P.S
Any word on the development of this forum?
Since FNM is no more and Vintergatan guild is now the leading guild.
Like:

* Namechange to Vintergatan
* Cleaning of the FNM section (or keep it for history purpose if its useable)
* Move members from FNMs forum to Vintergatans section (for those that switched teams after merge)
* Clean out users users from FNM section that didnt join after merge
* Maybe assign someone else from Vintergatans guild as CoAdmin over the forum (for future usermanagment).
and so on
Frodal.


Wow. What an immaculately self centered and inconsiderate reply to place on the announcement by a GM of the death of his guild. If I was trying to wind someone up I don't think I could of done a better job if I had tried. Fancy posting things like cleaning of the FNM section and clean out users who didn't join VG after the merge or hand over admin of the site to VG. It seemed that when they took all FNM's members they also assumed that they would then automatically become the leaders of the alliance and we would just hand over our forum. They had ruined our guild and now wanted to boot us from our own forum! Unbelievable! For months all I could think of when I thought of VG was 'wankers'.


If I had ever lacked resolve to make a go of RS then they had just given it to me in bundles. This was war as far as I was concerned. The first thing I did was remove FNM from what was left of the old alliance (tbh most of the guilds (KS, SR and FNM) had been swallowed up by VG anyway) and join them to the RSA so that we could see if anyone who hadn't logged in for a while logged in. The second thing I did was talk to the gm of the last independent guild in the alliance Norlands Guld. I managed to convince him that what VG had done was not what alliance guilds would do to each other and that he should join the RS alliance as we were looking to make a new alliance where partner guilds helped each other rather than stabbed each other in the back. He agreed and joined us.


This was great as I then had something to have a go at VG with over the forums. RS now had a new alliance consisting of RS, NG and Nightwolves


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Frodal - July 2003 * Namechange to Vintergatan * Cleaning of the FNM section (or keep it for history purpose if its useable) * Move members from FNMs forum to Vintergatans section (for those that switched teams after merge) * Clean out users users from FNM section that didnt join after merge * Maybe assign someone else from Vintergatans guild as CoAdmin over the forum (for future usermanagment).

Frodal's insensitive reply to Aereth's FNM epitaph. This was one of the first replies to the actual announcement that FNM as a guild was no more and the only thing that seemed to bother the VG member was what was going to happen FNM's forum. He helpfully gave a few suggestions.